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The Connection Between Sexual Well being, Longevity, and Regenerative Medication with Dr. Amy B. Killen


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Katie: Whats up and welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And I’m right here at this time with Dr. Amy B. Killen, who is taken into account one of many main longevity and regenerative physicians within the nation, specializing in intercourse and pores and skin. In her Utah-based practices, she combines issues like stem cell injections with photobiomodulation, shockwave remedy, bioidentical hormones, peptides, and old school nutritious diet and way of life to present sufferers unparalleled synergistic regenerative results on their pores and skin, their hair, and their sexual perform.

She’s additionally a global speaker, entrepreneur, educator, and Co-Founding father of the Human Optimization Venture, or HOP. And on this episode, we go deep on the connection between sexual well being, longevity, and regenerative drugs, together with a number of the foundational and extra superior biohacking practices she makes use of together with her sufferers, her tackle extra controversial issues like Ozempic use just lately for many individuals, really useful peptide dietary supplements, and eating regimen and way of life suggestions. So very far ranging dialog, and let’s be a part of Dr. Killen. Dr. Amy, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here.

Amy: Thanks for having me.

Katie: Properly, we’ve recognized one another in actual life for years now, so i’m glad we’re lastly attending to have a dialog and document it. And there’s going to be so many alternative instructions we get to go on this dialog. However earlier than we bounce in, I had a humorous notice out of your bio that you simply, with the recognition of the Barbie film proper now, you didn’t play with Barbie as children, however you had a really distinctive toy expertise as an alternative. So I’d love so that you can clarify that.

Amy: Sure. Yeah, I wasn’t an enormous doll particular person, however I did have a rubber fishing worm assortment, and I had an enormous field of rubber fishing worms, and I had names for all of them, and I’d get them out and like play with them and throw them towards the wall, and I had an entire, prefer it was an entire factor. I don’t know the place, the place it got here from.

Katie: That’s so humorous. I don’t suppose I’ve ever met another person that performed with fishing worms as a child and I form of love that. Now within the work that you simply do, you’re well-known to your work in Regenerative Medication, and I do know many individuals who work with you and have had fabulous outcomes, however I do know this wasn’t truly the way you began out. So are you able to stroll us by means of your background and the way you bought into the work you do now?

Amy: Yeah, completely. So I used to be an emergency drugs doctor for the primary 10 years of my profession. I went to ER residency, skilled in that, after which I lived in Austin and labored in a very busy emergency division there. And that was 10 years. After which in the direction of the tip of that, I had my three children inside two years. I had twins after which yet one more. And simply craziness of the schedule, the getting up at three within the morning, the sleeping two or three hours an evening, plus all the additional stress at work and simply the unhealthy way of life form of selections and issues that I used to be placing myself as much as began to form of weigh on me over time.

And I began seeing all these results of simply the persistent stuff on me. After which I regarded out on the individuals who have been coming into the ER. And I noticed that most likely like 70% of the people who have been coming into the emergency division have been there due to issues that might have been prevented with simply wholesome way of life, training, and a few empowering of these folks. So I simply realized that I wanted to study a number of new stuff for myself after which take that data and switch it to different folks.

Katie: And you’ve got considerably of a give attention to sexual well being in your observe. I’m curious what sparked that exact curiosity. And I do know that that additionally has crossover into many different areas of well being. It doesn’t after all exist in isolation, however what introduced that curiosity?

Amy: So I had a observe in Portland, Oregon, after I left the ER. I used to be doing bioidentical hormones, way of life drugs hormones. And I’d see these individuals who would are available in with like, form of on the finish of their rope, like they have been actually struggling, gaining weight, no power, simply form of frazzled. And it was actually problematic. And we put them on some hormones and a few way of life adjustments. After which they’d come again like two or three months later. And they’d say, hey, i’m truly beginning to really feel higher. I’ve extra motivation. My melancholy is getting higher. Now, are you able to assist me with both my pores and skin, make it look higher, or my intercourse life? And so over and over, I obtained these two requests. They appeared completely different. However once I began trying into it, I noticed that pores and skin well being and sexual well being they’re truly intently linked. They usually’re each these form of subsequent ranges of well being that folks don’t actually take into consideration an excessive amount of till they begin having issues in these areas or till they will recover from all the main well being struggles that they’re having. So I began diving into these two fields. After which simply grew to become actually fascinated with how sexual well being is intimately tied, intimately tied to general well being, to longevity, to happiness, to emotional well being, all of these issues.

Katie: Properly, and very like the physique, these folks appear to be having this type of expertise of triage that we hear about within the physique the place when you’re in survival mode or you’ve an enormous form of urgent well being disaster, your physique’s not as involved with like fertility, for example, or how your pores and skin appears to be like as a result of it’s making an attempt to outlive. And so it looks like the psychological expertise of those sufferers was mirroring what their physique was feeling in these occasions as properly.

Amy: I imply, it makes whole sense, proper? Your physique doesn’t need to be sexually lively or be produced if you’re in a state of disaster. If you happen to’re having a tough time even getting by means of your day since you’re too drained, then your physique is rather like, properly, we don’t have to be doing these different issues proper now. And so it makes whole sense. However what’s attention-grabbing is that I discover that if people who find themselves involved in being sexually lively and sexually wholesome, in the event that they even simply prioritize that, it finally ends up creating general well being. So you possibly can prioritize intercourse. And by doing that, it’s its ripple impact the place rapidly, oh, your cardiovascular well being is best, your hormone well being is best, your mind well being is best. Prefer it’s this attention-grabbing form of ripple impact. So I feel it’s form of a hack to have the ability to assist some folks turn out to be extra motivated to get wholesome that possibly in any other case they wouldn’t be.

Katie: That is sensible. What’s your tackle, I do know we hold seeing fairly dire statistics about infertility is on the rise, sperm rely is, I’ve seen numerous completely different estimates, however drastically decrease than it was even a few generations in the past. And I’ve seen even dire predictions of by 2050, we is perhaps going through type of like virtually whole infertility. What’s your tackle these numbers that we’re seeing and if these are correct the place they’re coming from?

Amy: I imply, I don’t know for positive. I imply, I’ve undoubtedly seen the identical numbers 40, you already know, 40 to 50% drop in sperm rely. Though sperm motility remains to be fairly excessive, which can be a oftentimes a greater marker. However yeah. Is down by 30 to 40% in simply the final 50 years in males and fertility in ladies appears to be down as properly.

I feel that they’re undoubtedly scary tendencies, whether or not these numbers are precisely proper or not, however I do suppose that there’s a number of considerations that we possibly aren’t taking as critically as we must always. Simply a part of it’s most likely how wholesome we’re residing our lives. Like for example, with sperm and testosterone, I feel that males simply aren’t, they aren’t lifting as many heavy issues, they’re not out within the solar as a lot, they’re not consuming as wholesome, they’re overstressed, they’re not sleeping as a lot. And all of this stuff have an effect on your skill to make testosterone, which has been mirrored at the very least to a point in your skill to make sperm. After which we even have all of the completely different endocrine disruptors and issues which are out within the surroundings, which I feel we nonetheless don’t, haven’t actually wrapped our head across the significance of a number of these chemical compounds and the way they’re affecting our endocrine techniques.

Katie: That is sensible. And I do know from studying a few of your work, there’s additionally a connection between sexual well being and longevity. So I’d love to ascertain a few of that connection for context earlier than we begin delving into options and issues that may assist.

Amy: Yeah, there’s a few attention-grabbing research. Now, they’re correlation research, so that they’re not displaying causation. However in 2020, The Journal of Sexual Medication revealed a big examine with over 13,000, I feel, women and men within the US. They usually adopted them for like six or seven years. They usually discovered that these individuals who have been sexually lively, particularly greater than like about 52 occasions a 12 months, about as soon as per week, had a 50% decrease all-cause mortality price in comparison with individuals who weren’t sexually lively or didn’t have very a lot intercourse. And that was truly comparable. Related outcomes have been seen in a big examine in Wales. And males, once more, 50% decrease mortality if folks have been having intercourse one to 2 occasions per week.

And so there’s all of this knowledge that reveals that there’s a robust correlation between being sexually lively in a wholesome manner, whether or not that’s in a relationship or not, we don’t know, and decrease all-cause mortality. And it’s most likely a mirrored image of a number of issues. Having a wholesome relationship, clearly, social relationships are necessary for longevity. It’s tied to emotional well being and psychological well being. It’s tied to bodily well being, as a result of when you can nonetheless have intercourse, it means you’ve good blood move and nervous system and all that, hormones. So there’s a number of items of the puzzle, however I do suppose it’s one thing that was not talked about sufficient within the longevity subject.

Katie: And what are a number of the huge issues that folks come to, possibly female and male particular, in terms of completely different ages and a decline in that, whether or not it’s a decline in sexual exercise or libido, what are a number of the stuff you see once they are available in with these particular questions?

Amy: In males, it’s principally erectile dysfunction, and we’re seeing that in youthful and youthful males. A few of it’s most likely simply due to porn and the easiness of getting that and a number of the issues which are occurring within the mind with that. However then I feel a number of it’s also simply a number of the different issues we talked about with low testosterone and blood move and endocrine disruptors and such.

In ladies, it’s a variety of issues. Low libido actually could be a drawback, lack of sensation. Orgasm issues. These are the most typical issues I see with ladies. The most typical one is simply lack of libido. I’m simply not likely . And we don’t name it sexual dysfunction until it bothers you. So when you don’t have a libido and also you’re completely wonderful with it and also you’re going about your life and every thing is nice, we don’t discuss it as being dysfunction. We simply discuss that as being a private alternative. So it’s solely when it bothers you you could have a libido. You that we begin to discuss a dysfunction. And we considered 40% of ladies admit to having some form of sexual dysfunction, which is simply ridiculous numbers.

Katie: Wow, that may be a greater quantity than I anticipated for positive. What are a number of the issues ladies can do? And I’d guess, does this range by age? Like, is there the next focus of that as folks become older, like with every decade, type of?

Amy: Yeah, it’s undoubtedly greater as you get within the perimenopause, menopause age group. And perimenopause can begin as early, I imply, it may begin early, however particularly 35 or 40 is about the place it tends to start out. However it’s about these 10 years earlier than menopause when you’ve a number of adjustments occurring. So due to decrease ranges of testosterone in addition to progesterone and finally estrogen in ladies, we begin to see much less libido in that inhabitants, in addition to a number of the different issues, issues with arousal, issues with orgasm. After which later issues with ache, as a result of when you lose estrogen, then you could begin to have ache as properly.

So I feel actually your way of life is all the time key very first thing. Are you exercising? Are you consuming properly? Are you getting daylight? You understand, stress ranges. If you happen to’re not sleeping properly, you’re not making a number of these hormones as properly. So that you’re not making, since you make testosterone in addition to progress hormone, primarily when you’re sleeping, when you’re not sleeping otherwise you’re not sleeping properly, then you definitely’re not making these hormones. So one thing as simple as simply prioritizing your sleep. And ensuring that you’ve a very good sleep hygiene routine and attending to mattress on time and people sorts of issues can truly make an enormous distinction and so they’re fairly simple to do.

After which the subsequent step goes in and seeing a health care provider, you already know, getting hormones checked, getting blood assessments checked, seeing if there’s any areas of irritation or issues like that you could goal to attempt to enhance no matter’s occurring, the well being or the blood move or no matter.

Katie: Okay, so these foundational issues can be type of preventative at any age and possibly nice way of life habits to combine earlier earlier than you begin seeing these issues. However sleep, train, and daylight would prime that listing for preventative.

Amy: Yeah, completely. Food plan, after all, consuming all the nice issues, all of the antioxidants, getting sufficient protein. All of it form of goes collectively, proper? I really feel like that is stuff that folks discuss over and over. However on the planet of sexual well being, since you’re speaking about wholesome hormones, you’re speaking about wholesome blood move and a wholesome nervous system, all of these issues play into whether or not you’re sexually wholesome.

The opposite piece that I feel is basically necessary and pretty simple to at the very least perceive is that you really want to have the ability to activate your Parasympathetic Nervous System. And so lots of people, we reside on this excessive stress, combat or flight world, and we’re in that type of stress, go, do, give, state on a regular basis.

However we actually need to have the ability to transition at will into what I name the remaining and obtain state, or the parasympathetic relaxation and chill out, the place you’re calming down your nervous system. Since you truly need to be in that state with a purpose to undergo all of the a part of the sexual response curve. You truly need to have enter from that parasympathetic system. So when you can’t chill out, when you can’t simply study to be and to breathe and to obtain, then for women and men, then that’s, it’s very tough to have satisfying sexual relationship.

Katie: That is sensible. And at what age would you suggest getting, beginning lab testing simply to get a hormone baseline after which form of frequency past that? And what hormones do you suggest folks take a look at and search for? As a result of I do know there’s a number of variation in what’s really useful right here.

Amy: Yeah, you already know, there’s some controversy on whether or not you need to be checking hormones in younger ladies who’re fairly wholesome as a result of your hormones are altering a lot through the month, you already know, getting a single lab check will not be all that helpful. I do suppose that by the point you’re 40ish, 35, 40, it’s good to get a like a 21 day. So 21 days into your cycle out of your when your interval begins to get a blood check then and simply take a look at estrogen. So estradiol, progesterone, testosterone, in addition to like intercourse hormone binding globulin, FSH and LH, that are pituitary hormones.

I additionally suppose your anti-Mullerian Hormone, AMH hormone, which goes to present you an concept of your ovarian egg reserve could possibly be helpful, particularly when you’re enthusiastic about, you need to form of preserve some fertility, however even not, even when you’re simply making an attempt to look and see how far out am I from menopause, that generally might be useful as properly. After which, yeah, testosterone, these are the principle ones. Actually you are able to do cortisol testing and issues like that, however these are higher as saliva assessments or as urine assessments, and also you normally need to do a number of of them as an alternative of only one. After which repeat these, after all, actually as you become older. Later, perimenopause, menopause, be certain that, see the place you’re, after which do what must be executed.

Katie: Acquired it. So to have type of that baseline of while you felt actually good, know what these numbers seem like to your particular person physique. After which what do you concentrate on as folks become older, hormone testing, sure or no? I imply, hormone substitute, sorry, sure or no?

Amy: Sure. I’m very largely pro-hormone substitute. And I feel that there’s a lot misinformation on the market, particularly for ladies about that. I really feel like a number of, I’ve a number of associates who’re form of early menopause. They usually’re very good ladies who’re well-informed docs. And but they nonetheless have this concept that they need to simply be powering by means of, you already know, perimenopause, powering by means of menopause. And that in the event that they settle for assist and get hormones, that it’s some type of signal of weak point. It’s like, you already know, you weren’t powerful sufficient to do that by yourself.

And I feel that that’s simply fully rubbish. And it reductions the truth that taking hormones is definitely very preventative in a manner stopping a number of the degradation that occurs, sadly, after we lose our estrogen ranges as ladies. So i’m pro-hormones. Clearly, there’s some circumstances the place you possibly can’t take them, however for essentially the most half, I feel that they need to be checked out for most individuals.

Katie: And what age do you see ladies sometimes are available in for that? And do you suggest it for guys as properly, particularly in gentle of the declining testosterone?

Amy: So for ladies, it’s going to be normally it’s like mid perimenopause, which once more can begin at 35 or 40 and it may go as much as 45 or 50. And normally to start with in perimenopause, it’s simply going to be possibly a bit of little bit of progesterone, two weeks out of the cycle to assist form of even out what’s occurring along with your estrogen. After which, or possibly it’s including a bit of testosterone. Testosterone goes down much more slowly in ladies than it does than the opposite hormones, it’s nonetheless happening yearly. After which after menopause, 45, 50, or possibly a bit of bit older, that’s while you actually, actually need to be sure to’re changing. Once more, even when you don’t have signs, I feel it’s price changing these hormones.

For males, most guys I see are within the 35 to 40 plus age vary. Though I’ve seen youthful guys now coming in with legitimately low testosterone. And that i’ve seen guys of their 20s who haven’t been on steroids, who don’t actually have good motive for it, who’ve low testosterone. However then sadly you take a look at them and so they’re additionally pre-diabetic or diabetic and so they’re chubby and so they’re not exercising. And there’s all these different issues that we all know are danger elements for low testosterone. And vice versa, low-T additionally will increase your danger for weight problems and for diabetes and it’s form of a rooster and egg factor. However 35 or 40, a number of issues have a tendency to alter with hormones in women and men.

Katie: And with hormone substitute, are we aiming for the degrees we had earlier than they began dropping in any respect or are there higher ranges? Does that change by decade as we become older or are we making an attempt to keep up type of that pre-baseline?

Amy: In males I attempt to hold testosterone within the center to higher finish of the traditional degree of like a 30 12 months outdated. In order that’s going to be you already know someplace within the 700 to possibly a thousand or so degree relying on the lab you’re utilizing.

For girls I’m holding estrogen, the degrees received’t be fairly what they have been while you’re having cycles as a result of throughout cycles you already know you’ve these very extensively fluctuating ranges. So the thought with the menopausal particularly therapy with hormones is to nonetheless hold your ranges up however you don’t have these fast swings. However you do need you already know you need estrogen ranges to be over possibly 80 or so for assist for a minute for cover of your mind and your blood vessels and your bones and your pelvic ground and your pores and skin. Like folks discuss that your pores and skin ages very quick as quickly as you hit menopause and also you lose estrogen as a result of estrogen helps to help the scaffolding of your pores and skin, the collagen in your pores and skin. And so when you don’t change that you already know fairly rapidly you begin to see fast pores and skin ageing which is an enormous grievance you already know a number of my associates and sufferers have at that age.

Katie: And I really feel like this has been largely debunked by now, however I do know some folks nonetheless have considerations about hormone substitute primarily based on a number of information articles that got here out after it grew to become well-liked, I feel a long time in the past now. However I’d love for any dispelling or cautions to concentrate on in that space, simply because I really feel like there are some lingering considerations with the protection of hormone substitute.

Amy: Yeah, nice query. So in 2002, the Girls’s Well being Initiative revealed the large examine, and that is the one which obtained that made the headlines and that stated, you already know, hormone substitute remedy causes breast most cancers, dementia, stroke, you already know. Coronary heart assaults, prefer it mainly causes all unhealthy issues. And that was in that second was when everybody obtained off hormone remedy. So that you had a era of ladies who at the moment stopped hormones or by no means obtained on them due to worries of this stuff.

Properly, it seems in that knowledge extra intently, the group that simply obtained… That simply obtained estrogen truly had a considerably decreased, I feel it was like a 25 or 30% decreased price of most cancers. And it was solely within the progestin group, the one which was getting the progestin plus estrogen, that had a slight elevated danger of breast most cancers. Even that wasn’t large. We’ve since discovered that these artificial progestin, which aren’t the identical as progesterone, which your physique makes, they do are usually a bit of bit extra inflammatory. And we expect that these elevated dangers of simply different issues like dementia or cancers due to that irritation.

However there’s not any proof that simply that bioidentical or physique similar progesterone will increase breast most cancers danger in any respect. There’s some form of potential enhance in breast most cancers danger when you’re on hormones for greater than 10 years. However even that may be a fairly low danger for most individuals. And if you concentrate on the advantages of the hormones, like simply on bone well being, for example, osteoporosis prevention is big. And to not point out dementia prevention and heart problems and all of that, however there’s no debate about whether or not hormones like estrogen assist stop osteoporosis. There may be some debate whether or not it helps to stop a few of these different issues.

However when you take a look at simply fracture danger. For grownup ladies, postmenopausal ladies, it’s monumental. After which you’ve the, you already know, the entire issues that go together with it. If you happen to break your hip, you’ve a 25% mortality price within the first 12 months of a hip fracture. And so these usually are not insignificant issues. So that you do need to weigh the dangers and the advantages, however for essentially the most half, hormone remedy doesn’t appear to extend breast most cancers danger. And if it does, it’s very slight and it’s solely after, you already know, utilizing it for 10 years or so.

Katie: Acquired it. That’s good to know. And it looks like only for individuals who don’t have the context for these, the completely different hormones most likely are going to have completely different results clearly inside the physique. And it sounds prefer it would possibly get applied at completely different ages. So possibly progesterone is the primary one which comes on-line for ladies after which estrogen in a while or testosterone in a while once they’re wanted. And for guys, is it simply testosterone that we’re speaking about sometimes with hormone substitute?

Amy: Yeah, it’s normally simply testosterone with males. I imply, you are able to do different issues earlier than you give testosterone. Like for example, you might do Clomid or Clomiphene, which is definitely a drugs that’s used for ladies to enhance fertility, however we use it at decrease doses in males to extend testosterone manufacturing by themselves. So when you’ve got a man who’s fairly younger, like when you’ve got like a 40 12 months outdated man who has some low testosterone, we might attempt a trial of like Clomid or Clomiphene to assist him produce his personal testosterone. As a result of when you get on testosterone, you’re form of shutting down your individual manufacturing and also you don’t need to try this when you don’t need to.

Katie: Acquired it. Is sensible. And I’ve heard from associates my age that even identical to a progesterone, like a topical progesterone, enormously improved their sleep and perimenopause. Is there a distinction so far as I do know there’s oral, injectable, topical? Can folks begin with identical to a easy topical one to check that?

Amy: You’ll be able to. I warning you a bit of bit about utilizing identical to over-the-counter progesterone. Like when you go to the well being meals retailer and you purchase like yam cream or one thing. And the reality is that yams, though there’s a part in yams that’s made into progesterone in a lab, and that requires lab gear. It doesn’t occur in your physique. So simply making use of yam cream, if it hasn’t been chemically transformed to progesterone to your pores and skin, doesn’t truly do something. It simply makes you, you’re simply lathering yam cream on.

Progesterone lotions which are prescribed by your physician might be useful in perimenopause. I feel they’re wonderful. I don’t like them in menopause as a result of there’s fairly variable absorption and so they don’t present up properly within the blood assessments. And since i’m utilizing blood assessments primarily to be sure that your uterus is being protected by the progesterone, then I feel that it’s higher simply to take oral progesterone when you’re menopausal and really want that uterine safety. However when you’re perimenopausal and doing it simply to form of see if it may assist with sleep or assist along with your cycles not be as painful or issues like that, then I feel lotions are wonderful.

Katie: Okay, obtained it. That’s an necessary distinction. And I do know that you simply additionally specialise in a number of areas associated to longevity. And naturally, we’ve made a robust case that sexual well being is an enormous key of that. However I’d like to go deeper on possibly a number of the foundational, universally optimistic issues folks can do as foundational items for longevity normally and anti-aging. After which additionally construct on to that.

I do know you’re additionally a biohacker and have tried a number of the different issues as properly. So I’d love to start out with like foundational after which transition into what are a number of the new superior issues which are popping out that you simply suppose are promising?

Amy: Humorous within the longevity world, which is like researchers, it’s biohackers, it’s all the time from folks, there’s a number of debate about what actually works, besides a couple of issues. We all know for positive that train works. In order that’s each cardio, get your coronary heart price up, in addition to resistance coaching. We all know that individuals who have extra muscle do higher long-term. And so constructing muscle, particularly while you’re youthful, is essential as a result of you’ll begin to lose the power to construct muscle as simply as you get 50, 60 years outdated. So beginning that early, I feel, is essential. There’s no debate about that.

We all know sleep is necessary. We all know {that a} nutritious diet is necessary, however there’s a number of debate about what which means, as you may think. Some folks within the longevity house do fully vegetarian, vegan, decrease protein, as a result of there’s some proof in some papers that you simply don’t need an excessive amount of protein due to mTOR activations and various things. Whereas different folks, like Peter Attia, for example, advocates for a reasonably excessive protein, like one gram per pound of ideally suited physique weight per day protein consumption. And so that you even have divergence even amongst these specialists in what’s the perfect eating regimen. So I personally, I feel the perfect eating regimen is the one which you’ll truly keep on with. I do suppose fruit and veggies are wholesome for you. I do suppose you would wish at the very least average protein, so at the very least a half a gram of protein per pound of physique weight a day, however extra when you’re bodily lively, which you need to be.

After which after that, I feel getting a bit of solar is definitely essential. And that i’m very into pores and skin well being, and so I do suppose the solar ages your pores and skin. And I even have seen, there’s some huge research that present that the solar is so useful to us, together with the large examine out of Sweden, the place they checked out a bunch of ladies over a long time, and so they mainly discovered that those who had the bottom solar publicity have been those who had the very best mortality charges, and that lack of solar publicity was a danger issue for dying that was on par with smoking a pack a day of cigarettes. And so there’s most likely a number of causes for this, however I do suppose that getting some solar, 10, 15, 20 minutes exterior within the daytime, don’t burn, is a long life hack that’s not being talked about sufficient as properly.

Katie: I’m actually glad you introduced that up as a result of I’ve additionally talked about this prior to now and brought some warmth from it and I don’t sometimes use sunscreen for that exact motive. I simply average my solar publicity primarily based on how a lot my pores and skin wants. I’ve undoubtedly seen an power distinction once I get common sunshine. I personally love to do morning sunshine for the sunshine publicity and getting it on my eyes after which noon solar publicity for pores and skin and for Vitamin D. I type of view these as like separate useful classes, however I really feel like we did ourselves an incredible disservice after we all began being afraid of the solar and overusing sunscreen and that we undoubtedly in that case I feel threw the newborn out with the bathwater.

Amy: And I feel that, you already know, I do use solar, I exploit a mineral sunblock, like a zinc oxide, titanium dioxide on my face and neck, as a result of I, you already know, I do know, i’m 47 years outdated and I understand how unhealthy the solar is for pores and skin ageing. However I additionally do suppose that you will need to get solar. And I feel that, you already know, you are able to do it in a wise manner, whether or not you simply don’t get a number of solar otherwise you put on protecting clothes otherwise you put on sunblock generally. However, you already know, it’s humorous that again, you already know, again within the outdated days, that they had, that they had all these sanitariums the place they might deal with tuberculosis sufferers by placing them out within the solar. And, you already know, even Florence Nightingale, the large, just like the nurse who like, you already know, found like a number of issues with germs, you already know, she’s an enormous quote speaking in regards to the significance of solar publicity and therapeutic sufferers.

And I feel that, I feel you’re proper. I feel that it’s extra than simply Vitamin D. Like we all know that supplementing with Vitamin D is helpful most likely, however we, however there are different issues as too. It’s serotonin, it’s melatonin, it’s circadian rhythm, you already know, engaged on holding these in sync. It’s, there’s every kind of temper enhancement, nitric oxide, all of these issues are benefited from getting some solar publicity.

Katie: What about on the complement entrance? As a result of I do know there’s additionally as many opinions right here as there are possibly extra so than completely different opinions on eating regimen. However it looks like there are undoubtedly some issues that may be useful, particularly as we age from a supplemental perspective. So what are a few of your commonest really useful dietary supplements?

Amy: Properly, I truly began a complement firm referred to as HOP Field simply because I used to be getting this query quite a bit and I used to be making an attempt to place these issues collectively into my very own private stack and realized that it was form of exhausting to do. And so we have now a type of twice day by day pack of the 19 substances that we expect have proven essentially the most promise for slowing of ageing. And so it’s issues like NAD boosters like both NR or NMN, calcium alpha-ketoglutarate, spermidine, hyaluronic acid, which is nice for pores and skin well being and you might take it orally as properly, in addition to a number of the Nutritional vitamins, B-Nutritional vitamins, Vitamin D.

I additionally actually like dihydroberberine or berberine due to its results on blood sugar. And we all know that, you already know, that blood sugar, an excessive amount of blood sugar over time is among the causes that you simply age quicker as having greater blood sugar ranges. Even when you’re not diabetic, it’s a explanation for fast ageing. And so one thing like berberine or we have now dihydroberberine as a result of it’s extra out there may also help blunt the blood sugar results in your physique. And we even have a post-biotic in there. So, yeah, there’s a number of various things on the market. And I feel that, you already know, we hear and find out about new issues on daily basis, however these are a number of the ones that we’re listening to about over and over, in addition to antioxidants like Quercetin and Fisetin and a few of these sorts of issues.

Katie: And also you’ve talked about glucose a few occasions. We now even have the supply of wearable glucose screens. And I really feel like that knowledge is extra out there. Is that one thing you suggest for folks of getting a form of a snapshot of what’s occurring with their glucose and their insulin and modulating that by means of eating regimen and way of life, which additionally, I assume, leads into the extra controversial query about what in regards to the rise in folks utilizing Ozempic and your ideas on that?

Amy: Ah, love all of those questions. So yeah, I feel CGMs, steady blood glucose screens, might be useful. I feel there are attention-grabbing items of data. They’re a bit of problematic in that you might eat one thing and you might be like, oh my gosh, carrots spiked my blood sugar. I’m not going to have carrots anymore. However you don’t understand that it is dependent upon what time of day you ate the carrots and whether or not you had been exercising. In case your physique, like there’s so many different issues that go into figuring, deciding what’s going to occur along with your blood sugar that’s not simply the meals you’re consuming. What did you eat the carrots with?

And so I feel that they’re attention-grabbing. And definitely as we begin having this an increasing number of of this type of knowledge after which we’re inputting different items to that puzzle, like was it at evening the place you needed to train that day? How was your sleep then? All of those items and beginning to utilizing AI and issues like that to essentially make sense of that knowledge, I feel we’ll begin to study much more than we are able to with simply these single factors of data.

And the second a part of your query about, oh, about Ozempic. So, you already know, i’ve truly, i’ve been working with Ozempic or Semaglutide or Semaglutide, no matter you need to name it, for a number of years. And I do suppose it’s an excellent medicine for lots of causes. I do suppose actually you need to be cautious for some causes as properly. It’s nice in that that is the primary group of medicines. These are the GLP-1 agonists, so it’s glucagon-like peptide. And it really works in a couple of other ways. It decreases your starvation indicators out of your mind, so that you’re simply not as hungry. And it does additionally sluggish gastric or abdomen emptying in order that meals is staying longer in your abdomen. And so you’re feeling full longer since you are full longer. And we all know that it has advantages exterior, these drugs have advantages exterior of simply inflicting weight reduction. That, you already know, decreases your insulin resistance and just a few cardio protecting advantages.

An enormous examine simply got here out displaying that there was a 20% lower in cardiac occasions of people that’ve been taking these drugs long-term, which is fairly nice. There’s some neuroprotective, there’s every kind of issues which are useful.

The downsides of those drugs are, I feel the most important draw back is that while you shed pounds quickly, you are inclined to lose extra muscle than you desire to. Any weight reduction goes to trigger muscle loss, however particularly fast weight reduction will trigger extra muscle loss. And since you’re not hungry, you’re most likely not consuming sufficient protein, and possibly you’re not proof against the pressure like you need to be. In order that’s all going to assist, you’re going to worsen your muscle loss. So I do suppose that you must be very, very cautious about nonetheless getting sufficient protein on daily basis and nonetheless doing all your weight coaching, your heavy lifting, when you’re going to be on these drugs. Clearly simply solely do it with a supplier, a health care provider, however I feel that they are often useful in the precise inhabitants.

Katie: And also you talked about the peptide part of that, which is a good springboard right into a dialog round peptides normally. And I consider these are issues that you simply use along with your sufferers. However what’s your tackle peptides and what can be a number of the ones that you’d give folks as like a place to begin for analysis in the event that they’re involved in both studying about or making an attempt peptides.

Amy: Yeah, I like peptides. There’s a whole lot of peptides. Peptides are simply quick proteins. So it’s mainly 20 amino acids are lengthy, quick little proteins which have particular receptors that they bind to as a result of they’re not like these huge loopy folded proteins. And there’s a bunch of them on the market. A few of them are FDA accredited. As an illustration, insulin is a peptide that’s FDA accredited, used on a regular basis, clearly. The GLP-1 like Ozempic are peptides. However there are additionally a number of them which are form of on this grey zone, in line with the FDA.

However a few of my favorites that we all know, a simple one to start out with is BPC 157. And that’s one, when you ever take a look at the peptides, that’s most likely the primary one you’ll hear about. However it’s BPC stands for Physique Protecting Compound. And that is truly a peptide that’s present in your abdomen juice, in your gastric juice, in your physique. And it was found that it’s actually useful for therapeutic your intestine and your abdomen. So when you take it orally, like with a tablet, I even have a formulation that I’ve on the market. I’ll provide the hyperlink to it. However you are taking it orally as a tablet, it’s actually useful for, with serving to with whether or not it’s abdomen ulcers or irritable bowel syndrome or any form of intestine problem it might doubtlessly assist. After which you might additionally inject it. It may be a subcutaneous insulin needle injection and that may assist with simply bettering your skill to heal from particularly musculoskeletal accidents.

So I’ve an Achilles tendonitis proper now that i’ve had from over bounce roping and that i’ve been taking BPC 157 for… So it’s useful for that, but additionally pores and skin therapeutic after procedures. There’s a number of musculoskeletal pores and skin therapeutic for that one. A few of my different favorites, I actually like GHK copper as properly. That one is normally given as an injectable and also you do it for like a cycle, like a month on and a few months off. However that one has, you already know, it reacts with a whole lot of various enzymes in your physique. It’s most recognized for being good for pores and skin and for selling youth, however it does every kind of different issues as properly. So these are two good ones to start out with, however there’s, it’s an entire rabbit gap when you begin trying into it.

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However that then I feel leads into the dialog for individuals who have optimized the foundational issues. What are a number of the extra superior biohacky sort issues that you simply suppose are well worth the time and the cash to do or that you simply suppose are essentially the most impactful?

Amy: I feel sauna could be very impactful and it does take some time. I’ve a sauna and I don’t do it as a lot as I ought to as a result of it takes like an hour to warmth up and that i’m simply too lazy. However there may be good analysis for sauna customers that reducing cardiovascular danger, cardiovascular loss of life, dementia, to not point out a number of the different potential advantages and issues like that. However I do suppose sauna is an effective one.

I’m an enormous fan of chilly plunges, though I don’t suppose there’s as a lot proof for that as different issues. I do it as a result of it simply makes me really feel good. I love to do a chilly plunge and I really feel like i’m unstoppable for a number of hours afterwards. However there’s the potential advantages to reducing irritation and immune system and issues like that, which I feel that we’ll hear, I feel we’ll study an increasing number of about. However i’m not satisfied that we have now a number of proof but, however I do nonetheless suppose that it’s enjoyable to do and value simply testing your self. It’s price form of getting uncomfortable generally and simply saying, i’m okay, i’m uncomfortable and that i’m okay. And I really feel like that that little little bit of instructing is definitely top-of-the-line issues about doing chilly plunges.

I do like pink gentle remedy. So photobiomodulation utilizing pink gentle, that’s going to be gentle within the gentle 650 to 1000 nanometer vary, whether or not it’s the panels or a wraparound or the beds or there’s a ton of to do it. However it’s nice for pores and skin. It’s nice for hair. It’s nice for rising mitochondrial power manufacturing, wound therapeutic, the listing of issues that pink gentle helps with is definitely fairly lengthy and properly researched. There’s a number of there’s a number of analysis behind that as properly.

Katie: Superior. Yeah, these are some that I like to make use of as properly. I really feel like primarily based on at the very least the Finnish sauna examine that i’ve stated earlier than, if sauna was a tablet, everyone would take it as a result of they confirmed some fairly profound outcomes from that. However you’re proper, it does take a bit of little bit of a time dedication and the time in there may be not all the time essentially the most comfy. I feel for me, the chilly plunge, I’m with you, it’s on the mindset and the way I really feel after, not essentially how I really feel within the chilly, however it does appear to create a measurable enhance in dopamine, at the very least for a short while after the chilly. So I really feel prefer it’s an excellent psychological reset.

And one tip I’ve used, even when you don’t have a chilly plunge at your own home, is simply submerging your face in a bowl of ice water can typically provide you with that little little bit of a dopamine enhance. So when you’re like form of sluggish in the midst of the day, or simply need a bit of hit of dopamine, that generally helps me. And when you really feel extra alert or centered, simply to stay my face even within the chilly water.

Amy: Yeah, you already know, what I discovered was, you already know, once I do the chilly plunge, I’ve a tough time meditating simply in my regular life, as a result of my thoughts is all the time doing one thing. However I do discover that when i’m within the chilly plunge and that i’m simply specializing in respiration, that it’s it’s form of this meditative state that I’ve a tough time entering into in any other case. And I discovered myself, there’s a few occasions, there was one time just lately within the winter, I used to be driving residence with my children down the mountain, it was tremendous snowy exterior, it was simply me and them. And it like this large storm hit, just like the roads have been icy, it’s from Park Metropolis, like actually, actually harmful vehicles going off the facet, like, tremendous, tremendous sketchy, I used to be very stressed. However I noticed I used to be I had began respiration like I did within the chilly plunge, like this like sluggish form of rhythmic respiration. And with out realizing it, my physique had form of shifted into this, into this like parasympathetic such as you obtained this, you’re uncomfortable, it’s okay, you’re going to outlive state. And it obtained me all the best way down the mountain and residential. And that i’m simply so grateful for that. Simply in that second, that’s sufficient proper there for me to do it on daily basis.

Katie: That’s an excellent level. Yeah, I feel the mindset piece can’t be most likely overstated and that any likelihood we have now to type of domesticate that mindset is useful in so many different areas of life. You’ve additionally talked about train and motion and weight coaching particularly a few occasions in relation to each sexual well being and to longevity. And that is one anytime I get the prospect to speak about, particularly in relation to ladies, I like to go deep on as a result of I really feel like for a very long time, ladies have been marketed extra of just like the cardio and the courses and have been not likely inspired to do weightlifting as a lot. And while you take a look at the information, at the very least to me, it was extraordinarily compelling. And it’s now what I give attention to is like sprinting and weightlifting for essentially the most half. And I fortunately love these issues as properly. However are you able to simply form of give us an outline of why, particularly for ladies and particularly as we become older, weight coaching is necessary to prioritize?

Amy: Yeah, I imply, completely. I feel, and you already know, and that i’m a form of a scrawny particular person, although I do carry weights, however I don’t have a number of muscle groups, however I nonetheless do it on a regular basis. However you already know, it turns into tougher and tougher to achieve muscle with age, however lack of muscle, Sarcopenia and Osteoporosis, that are each tied to not lifting weights, are one thing that in ladies particularly, the place you’re goanna begin to wrestle with, going to begin to have an effect on your on a regular basis life and your general well being.

And we all know that having extra muscle goes to make you metabolically fitter. And you already know, having extra muscle makes you extra proof against the downfalls of insulin and retains your blood sugar extra common. Like when you’ve extra muscle, you’ve much less visceral fats. Like there are all of this stuff that simply having extra muscle will do which are very optimistic for you. It helps your mind, it helps, it’s actually simply every thing. And so, you already know, actually there’s advantages, such as you stated, sprinting, getting your coronary heart price up for brief durations of time, however i’ve undoubtedly shifted my, I was the one who would journey on the peloton for 45 minutes, or I’d, you already know, go for it. I nonetheless go for hikes, however I’d do hike, do hike, a number of climbing, and I name that my train. However now i’ve shifted the place I do, you already know, weight coaching 4 to 5 days per week, after which just do attempt to do quick durations of bounce roping or climbing or sprinting or, you already know, stairs or no matter to get the guts price up, however in a lot shorter intervals than I used to do.

Katie: Yeah. And I really feel like that was so releasing to me to study, particularly as a busy mother, as a result of a number of these issues, you will get an incredible profit with out spending hours doing it. So for mothers, particularly, I really feel like these are form of a cheat code to sustaining muscle and health as we become older and so they don’t take an excessive amount of time.

I additionally am actually curious since you as a health care provider and dealing on this type of longevity house seemingly have entry to the entire instruments. And I do know I additionally hit this like fatigue level of when there’s so many alternative issues you are able to do for well being, it turns into exhausting to do all of them. And generally it may really feel overwhelming to even know the place to start out. So i’m curious for you personally with entry to basically virtually every thing underneath the solar, what’s your private 80/20 that you simply prioritize, whether or not it’s day by day or cyclically, to your personal well being and for anti-aging?

Amy: You understand, and I do have entry to stem cells and exosomes, and I can do infusions, and I do, and so they’re nice. However I actually suppose that prioritizing sleep might be my primary. I went for 15 years between coaching and being an ER physician and having younger children, which clearly you perceive. I simply went all these years not sleeping quite a lot of hours an evening. And once I made that change and began studying how one can sleep and prioritizing sleep, it modified every thing for me. Like, I misplaced weight with out making an attempt, my temper was higher. Like, I used to be like, what is going on? I don’t even know who I’m anymore. It’s simply superb. In order that’s my, that’s like an enormous one. I received’t compromise on that.

After which train clearly is a… Properly, weight coaching particularly. After which, you already know, I feel if you wish to add in different cool stuff like different, you already know, stem cells or gentle or gentle remedy or a few of these different instruments, that’s nice. However when you don’t have the foundations, I feel that’s one of many errors that biohackers form of make a few of them is utilizing all of the devices however not even have gotten the foundational stuff actually dialed in but. And to me, when you don’t dial within the foundational stuff, then the devices are, they’re nothing. They’re not going that will help you that a lot.

Katie: I totally agree. And when you’ve got these foundational issues dialed in, the devices or the dietary supplements will all be more practical as a result of your physique’s going to be in a greater place to obtain and course of all of that to start with. And also you’re a mother as properly. So i’m curious which of those habits you’ve built-in along with your children and at what ages. And I do know you most likely even have the conversations round this stuff on a regular basis with them. So it’s most likely led partially by their curiosity, however which issues have additionally made it into your loved ones tradition or that your children now do repeatedly?

Amy: Properly, I’ve a few children, two of my children love to do chilly plunges. So we’ll do within the yards, actually in lakes and issues round that. So we love to do chilly plunges and that’s a number of enjoyable collectively. My husband has determined that sizzling tubs are the equal to a sauna. So he simply spends a number of time within the sizzling tub. I’m unsure if that’s actually serving to or not. However, however, however I feel however possibly, you already know, I attempted to I feel the sleep piece is the most likely the factor that they really take heed to. They’re all excellent sleepers and it’ll be like 9 o’clock at evening and my daughter will simply rise up and stroll and go to mattress and he or she’s like, I’ll see you tomorrow. And he or she simply is aware of that she feels higher when she sleeps.

We even have time open air and I feel getting out and climbing and mountain biking and doing issues like that’s enjoyable. We take pleasure in it, however I do suppose that the exercise plus the daylight plus the getting off of your telephones and units and having your mind have to simply entertain itself for some time, I feel all of these issues are actually necessary as properly.

Katie: Agreed. And I do know sleep can all the time be the most important problem for mothers, particularly with little children, for positive. However I agree with you fully. Anytime we may also help make {that a} precedence for our youngsters in a manner they will personal it from a younger age, I feel that’s going to pay dividends for his or her well being from a lifelong perspective as properly. And also you talked about, I need to be certain that we additionally be certain that folks can discover and study from you extra. So I do know that you’ve a observe, you even have a web site, and also you even have a complement firm. So stroll us by means of the place folks can discover you and continue to learn from you. And when you’re taking new sufferers, how folks can work with you.

Amy: So yeah, thanks. So my web site is dramykillen.com. That has hyperlinks to a number of different issues on there, when you can’t discover me from that. My complement firm known as HOP Field, h-o-p-b-o-x. So it’s hopbox.life. And we have now the longevity field there. We even have a beginning in a few weeks, we’re going to be launching our longevity problem, which is a 26 day longevity problem referred to as the beams problem. And beams stands for belong, eat, activate, strikes, stress, solar and intercourse. And so we’re going to have some very particular, simple issues you possibly can type of implement and add on on daily basis to start out transferring the needle or no matter in the precise route for longevity and well being and the way you’re feeling. In order that’s additionally on the HOP Field web site.

After which I even have a clinic, I’ve a stem cell clinic in Park Metropolis, Utah. That’s a Dossary Clinics and I’m taking new sufferers there for stem cells. I’ve a couple of different clinics as properly that I don’t see new sufferers at, however I can refer you to these clinics if you wish to see one other supplier. However I’m type of concerned in these clinics, however i’m not seeing sufferers there.

Katie: Adore it. And some questions I like to ask on the finish of interviews. The primary is that if there’s a e-book or variety of books that has had a profound influence on you personally and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.

Amy: So you already know books that I learn in the previous couple of years that I hold coming again to is Consolation Disaster by Michael Easter. I feel that that’s it. It’s an incredible e-book in regards to the significance of form of being uncomfortable and he has this one bit in there the place he talks about how we’re residing in a progressively sheltered, sterile, temperature managed, overfed, underneath challenged, security netted lives. And I feel that that concept is so true and that it’s the significance of being uncomfortable, the significance of being alone along with your ideas, of being a bit of hungry generally, and being okay with that, I feel is highly effective and helps me get by means of a few of these occasions the place i’m uncomfortable. I’m like, that is good for me, I needs to be uncomfortable. So I like that one quite a bit.

Katie: That’s great. That’s a brand new advice for me. I’m excited to test it out. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners that could possibly be associated to the subjects we’ve lined or unrelated life recommendation that you simply discover useful.

Amy: One among my favourite quotes that somebody informed me at one level was, it’s higher to be courageous than good. And I like that quote, as a result of I grew up form of pondering I needed to be good, you already know, get good grades, look a sure manner, act a sure manner. However what i’ve discovered as i’ve gotten older is that, you already know, being courageous and simply going out and making an attempt new issues is far more necessary. And so I feel that it’s, you already know, I feel that you simply as an individual have a lot energy over your well being, you’ve a lot energy over your life. And it does, you already know, it does require you being courageous and getting out of your consolation zone to exit and take a look at new issues, however that it finally ends up being actually price it when you take a couple of steps out of your consolation zone.

Katie: I like that. Amy, thanks a lot for the time. It’s so enjoyable to get to speak and document and share it. Thanks for all that you simply’ve shared at this time.

Amy: Thanks. Bye.

Katie: And due to all of you for listening and sharing your most respected assets, your time, your power, and your consideration with us at this time. We’re each so grateful that you simply did. And I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode of The Wellness Mama podcast.

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